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THMG117 – NFPA 1072 Unpacked, Part I

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With the NFPA 1072 coming out recently, we spend some time researching the best of the new standard and bringing it all together for you to soak in the goodness. Take a listen to part one of this series here!

Thanks for listening and watching!

what is it.
NFPA DOC created in 2017 to be an assist with NFPA 472
ok wait, we are constantly getting new people listening, or new people to hazmat so maybe we should tell them what is 472.
472 is the nfpa document that tells you what you need to have learned at each level of hazmat.
These different levels start at awareness. Which is really anyone who in there job may come across a hazardous material.
• Remember we look at everything from a firefighter point. But OSHA says that anyone who in the course of their job may come across a hazardous material be able to at the very least recognize that there is a hazardous material and notify someone.
– People learn about placards, labels, sds sheets, you know those kinds of things
• Then there is operations level. This is basic a group of people who need to litteral perform some kind of operation if shit goes down.
– This is the category that firefighter land in. They arrive on scene and they got shit to do. recognize, secure, rescue, contain.
• Then there is tech. Which if your on any kind of hazmat team this is what you are trained to.
– And we say any kind of hazmat team because we as firefighters or the occasions cop who happens to wander into this territory. (jk kidding we sort of like our 5-0 brethren.) are not alone. a lot of factories and industry has a tech team. They have workers who are trained to this level and they are the ones that are responding if shit hits the fan.
• and that can be difficult to remember reading threw 472 because there are huge seconds that take our WMD and terrorism. So just keep this in mind.
• Then there is Incident commander,
– which is literally as it sounds. You are trained to run a hazardous materials scene.
• they also talk about what it means to be a specialist,
– and breaks down spacelist into a few different categories
OK, So i can hear people at home screaming, this is a show on 1072 why the hell are you talking about 472.
The answer is more direct than you might think. 1072 is a twin sister of 472.
• Maybe twin sister is too strong of a correlations, but they reflect and complement each other
• you see while 472 tell you what you need to know to be a these various levels, 1072 tells us what we need to do.
– I can see some people not understanding that last statement. So think of it like this. I can talk to you for two hours about sweating a copper pipe. We can talk about flux and solder and heat transfer, gases types. But Put a copper pipe in your hand and tell you to do it. The house will burn down or your will have 3rd degree burns to two fingers and your forehead.
– Right 1072 go threw competency. It wants to make sure that the things you need to do are actually done the right way. So the first time you go out there and perform this task isn’t actual you first time performing the task.
– You have enough to think about, you don’t need to worry weather or not you can perform a function.
where does it start. how do we begin to digest this.
It all start off with three simple letters. JPR
this stands for Job performance requirements. 1072 defines jpr’s. A written statement that describes a specific job task, lists the items necessary to complete the task, and defines a measurable or observable outcomes and evaluation areas for the specific task.
so This standard helps to mold the minimum JPR for all levels of hazmat mentioned above
• no that’s an important part. It clear says in the stand that these are the minimum enquiries. Right in 1.2 the exact wording is. The purpose of this standard is to specify the minimum JPRs for service at the scene of a hazardous materials/weapons of mass destruction incident at the following levels: awareness, operations, operations mission-specific, hazardous materials technician, and incident commander.
• Lets address this min for a moment. why? because it was actually important enough to be addressed on the standard. 1.2.5 states—It is not the intent of this standard to restrict any jurisdiction from exceeding or combining these minimum requirements.
• The standards is making it super clear that this is least competent you should be.
• that sounds sooo, sooo, sooo miniumin.
• yes and it’s designed to be. Think about it. how many different skills are there out there in the hazmat world. What do you think would happen if they tried to make a list of every activity that you should be tested on.
• Yes but look at it in the reverse. They don’t want to set a limit to your competency either. They are literally saying if your an employer and you need to make sure that if you have a task that isn’t on this list that that is not an excuse to not train you person
• right they don’t want an employer saying, well they didn’t have to know that according to 1072!
• So what the take away on this one. ITs that if your leading a team, you need to make sure the least amount of skill they they are component on are the ones that are covered on this document but they are not the only ones.
These JPR are also not supposed to break any laws or standards in your area.
So they have to conform with all state and local laws, protocols etc.
right you can’t say were supposed to do this and violate 10 local laws because 1072 said we need to do this.
Let talk about awareness level.
um i just got an email from angry hazmat guy.
an email?
Yes
the show hasn’t even been released yet
what you never saw spaceballs
ok fair enough, what does angry hazmat guy say
Why do i need to know what an awareness level guy need to know
Why, because our training builds upon itself.
everything we know and do is supposed to include information that was needed to be taught in all the other levels.
So skills that are performed by awareness also need to performed by us there angry email guy.
awareness is pretty straight forwards. it only required for people who are in the course of their normal duties, could encounter and emergency involving hazardous materials.weapons of mass destruction and who are expected to recognize the presence of the hazardous materials/WMD, protect themselves, call for trained personnel, and secure the area.
So what skills are covered for this happy group you might be asking yourself. Well the need to know all the players in the hazmat game. From awareness to operations to tech and specialist they should know what going on.
Were not talking about the actual people here we are talking about the roles
The next function is right in the name. Awareness.
Right recognitionton and ID. basically people at this level need know that a hazmat exists.
And 1072 says they have to be able to prove they can Identify the hazardous materials
• The class and divisions in the DOT charts
• have a really good idea of a product by using a containers shapes and design.
– That like oh its a low pressure compressed liquid gas because of the shoulders, foot ring, wield in the middle ect
• you gotta know your NFPA DIAMOND
• OH let us not forget the great worldly kumbaya known as global harmonization
– remember this is for people who in there course of work may encounter hazmat. So think factories, industrial site, labs. They need to know where to go to learn about a product.
• placards and labels
• Pipeline markings
• Transportation stuff like markings, shipping papers
• The ERG
– Wait isn’t the ERG for responders. Like operations level people
• Yes but it is also required for an awareness level person to be able to use as a reference. So if i Give them a name they have to be able to get info from the ERG
• And not just the name. 1072 requires they can get info from un ID, Placard, and containers ID charts
• They also need to show they can get similar info from SDS and shipping papers too!
• Create and isolation area
– So once an awareness level person has recognized its a hazmat, they can’t just turn around run.
• They need use the info they have gathered to make sure no one else is going to get hurt.
• They have to show that they can recognize precautions for protecting responders and the public’s
• identify the isolation areas
• deny entry
• avoid hazards
• and last but not least they need to be able to let someone know whats happening.
– the exact wording is operating approved communications equipment and communicating in accordance with policies and procedures
• Yes and here is a really good example of how 1072 works really well to not step on local protocols. So let say your in a factory and you communications to people is via radio. and your shops protocol is to use the radio. Then when you train on that, you have to use that radio. That is the policy and procedures of that place.

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2 COMMENTS

  1. to correct your pod cast of NFPA 1072 the IC needs to be trained to the Operations level, along with training of being a IC. DOES NOT NEED TO BE TRAINED TO THE TECH LEVEL. You need to read NFPA 472 8.1.1.2.

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